Really unable to tell the difference in good coffee, perhaps I just cannot make good coffee. Bought a grinder, pour over drip coffee maker, special filters, various organic roasted beans, airtight canister and it tasted no better than Starbucks. I actually like the instant freeze-dried organic Mount Hagen from Deutschland, Jacobs Kronung from Deutschland and even the cheap Supreme Bustelo from Target. All are quick and easy and not near the mess.