Yes she does.. Britt always makes good points......Originally Posted by Robthebuilder
Yes she does.. Britt always makes good points......
Thanks guy ;)
True GFE is when you don't worry about a cover:
https://home.ourhome2.net/vb/showthr...-Elite-Goddess
Uhhh. Serious bro? Joking? Fucking no way. I wouldn't touch that with a fake dick from Dreamers! Hahahaha. Really. She openly advertises uncovered for a price?? Jesus. Gross.Fuuuuuuuck.
It does illustrate the point that GFE means something different to everyone.
Suppose so Sprinter. But crazy.BBFS is only good anyway when its due to GFE. And GFE really is an attraction and chemistry. That's not BS. That's the whole point. Plenty of girls in RL will want you to wear a condom. Even lots of regular SO/GF type, not *mine*, they won't be my GF long (hahahah lol - sorry just bein honest), but a lot do b/c they don't take birth control or don't want to. The real issue is pregnancy not so much STI/STD. Fingering is no different. What if you have a cut on your finger? What if she has a tiny cut inside her? They could be microscopic. The real issue is pregnancy. But I wouldn't touch a girl like that ad you posted simply b/c that's just nasty that she does that with lots of men for money.
I do agree with Brits comment about stating what they are comfortable with up front. That makes sense sure. But you still need to keep in mind it won't change that if a girl sees you and there is no chemistry or she is not attracted to you (or vice versa) for whatever the reasons then you likely won't have a great session. Certainly not what one would call GFE. This is why I say it's so important that a girl knows if she offers GFE she either needs to like get a pic, talk with the guy, actually talk, do you like him, is he attractive, could you at least give a good performance of what would "seem" like GFE? If not don't do it. Either that or realize that if you advertise something like "GFE" to the "masses" then you are gonna have to put on some performances where you really cant stand some of the men (maybe even a lot of them).
It's as obvious as a busted tire when a girl doesn't like you. The stupid little pecks and not really kissing or touching and just trying to get it over with as fast as possible. Any guy with any amount of experience with girls will sniff that out instantly. The other end of the spectrum is those girls that just do this weird licking all over your face and attack you! It's hard to describe. It's like they are in animal mode. I don't know if they learn this from guys who don't know how to kiss or if they think guys want this or what but it's fucking ridiculous. Hahaha Just writhing and licking and all this weird ass shit. Mounting you like some female lion in attack mode. And it's sooooooooo absurdly obvious that she is just giving the worst D quality movie performance in history. I dunno why. Probably she wants it over with as fast as possible. Funny thing is she couldn't possibly be doing anything worse to keep dick from getting hard. Oh and then comes the "what time is it....?", "I wanna make sure it happens for you but we are running out of time". Gee thanks! That helped baby!I'll put another quarter in. Awesome mood setting. A+
I mean could you possibly do anything worse to keep it from happening? LMFAO.
Sheeeeit! I'm so jaded by the hobby. Hahaha.I came back with this new handle after some years, dipped my toe in, and I'm like (for the most part), "nah.... this sucks". I like writing, reading, sharing knowledge, and it's entertaining to read the stuff anyway. GFE is so hard to find though. You can't trust reviews. Guys don't tell the truth. Girls write fake ones with fake accounts. And if anyone says anything less than stellar shit then a fight starts b/c she has her feelings hurt. Too much drama.
This is why ATF's, fuck buddies, sugar babies, and whatever other stuff people do that's much more unconventional "hobby" activity (if you wanna call it that) is the best. Not that you can expect that but it's definitely the only thing worth it. Ya, it's way hard to find but nothing beats it! Trust me
Just b/c you give a girl, say, even as much $500+ for an hour don't think that matters. Don't. I have never in my life, 40yrs old, not ever, spent more than about $300 (in total) on a girl whether SC's or hobby or whatever. That means gifts, outside money, fix their car, buy clothes, dinners, all those extras, whatever. The exceptions are counted on a single hand. 1 or 2 of them virtually fit into the same category as my SO's. The others were just great girls. A wad of money won't make the difference in GFE. I can assure you. Because GFE doesn't come from that. Even if it *is* a "business" transaction or a "service". Hell, a marriage is a business transaction if you really wanna get down to it (but ya I get the point BL was making about that - of course). I've done the straight up just pay for play, a decent bit over the years, some of them were really fun. Nice girls. Good at what they do. In the end a pile of money never makes the difference with the good ones. Some of the absolute best experiences have been the cheapest ones that you end up sleeping with till the next morning, or watching movies with, fucking, playing video games, cuddling, whatever.....even though it was supposed to be an hour long scheduling. Those are fun!!
If a girl doesn't like you she doesn't like you (same as you her). Period. None of those that I mention are reviewed. Not under any handle I ever had. Not anywhere. B/c I don't "review" those. Just like I don't review hot sex with a girl from the pool hall. For you younger dudes, if you do the hobby long enough and you will end up with some of those same experiences. If you are a decent person, nice guy, at least somewhat attractive (someone will like you), a good lover, fun to be around, funny, intelligent, etc... Ya. Eventually you will run into the real GFE's. I assure you.Until then you just have to settle for trying to build the best IOP and rapport session you can with a provider and hope it's close to GFE. Some are good. They are. Some are. Most are not. Just the truth. Sorry. You want it straight? That's it.
Bottom line/cliff notes version?
90%+ of girls who say GFE will only be GFE with guys they are attracted to. Period. Will you be gfe with a girl that disgusts you? No. Some guys will walk out. I never could do that. It's too mean. But I'll be disappointed. And it will show. Just like theirs will show. We all have different tastes. Which is why *again* talk to them, fucking look at them, both ways, two way street, if you can't be GFE with them or vice versa then just admit it politely and move on in both directions. The lady can just politely say she has no time. As can you. Whatever. Hey if the guy doesn't wanna give his pics then fine for privacy issues but you are crazy if you are not asking. I don't get it. I wouldn't do it in a million years. But I would totally hook myself if I was the same version of myself as a female!At least part time or for fun or just some extra cash. Shit yea. But not with *anyone*. Uh uh. You can take that to the bank.
Sweetie you keep bringing up real world GFE scenarios and what not. That again has no place here in this discussion we are strictly talking about GFE in the hobby. You cant keep comparing the to. A sex worker who offers GFE isnt going to treat you the same or offer up everything your wife or so will do.Suppose so Sprinter. But crazy.
I do agree with Brits comment about stating what they are comfortable with up front. That makes sense sure. But you still need to keep in mind it won't change that if a girl sees you and there is no chemistry or she is not attracted to you (or vice versa) for whatever the reasons then you likely won't have a great session. Certainly not what one would call GFE. This is why I say it's so important that a girl knows if she offers GFE she either needs to like get a pic, talk with the guy, actually talk, do you like him, is he attractive, could you at least give a good performance of what would "seem" like GFE? If not don't do it. Either that or realize that if you advertise something like "GFE" to the "masses" then you are gonna have to put on some performances where you really cant stand some of the men (maybe even a lot of them).
It's as obvious as a busted tire when a girl doesn't like you. The stupid little pecks and not really kissing or touching and just trying to get it over with as fast as possible. Any guy with any amount of experience with girls will sniff that out instantly. The other end of the spectrum is those girls that just do this weird licking all over your face and attack you! It's hard to describe. It's like they are in animal mode. I don't know if they learn this from guys who don't know how to kiss or if they think guys want this or what but it's fucking ridiculous. Hahaha Just writhing and licking and all this weird ass shit. Mounting you like some female lion in attack mode. And it's sooooooooo absurdly obvious that she is just giving the worst D quality movie performance in history. I dunno why. Probably she wants it over with as fast as possible. Funny thing is she couldn't possibly be doing anything worse to keep dick from getting hard. Oh and then comes the "what time is it....?", "I wanna make sure it happens for you but we are running out of time". Gee thanks! That helped baby!
Sheeeeit! I'm so jaded by the hobby. Hahaha.
This is why ATF's, fuck buddies, sugar babies, and whatever other stuff people do that's much more unconventional "hobby" activity (if you wanna call it that) is the best. Not that you can expect that but it's definitely the only thing worth it. Ya, it's way hard to find but nothing beats it! Trust me
Just b/c you give a girl, say, even as much $500+ for an hour don't think that matters. Don't. I have never in my life, 40yrs old, not ever, spent more than about $300 (in total) on a girl whether SC's or hobby or whatever. That means gifts, outside money, fix their car, buy clothes, dinners, all those extras, whatever. The exceptions are counted on a single hand. 1 or 2 of them virtually fit into the same category as my SO's. The others were just great girls. A wad of money won't make the difference in GFE. I can assure you. Because GFE doesn't come from that. Even if it *is* a "business" transaction or a "service". Hell, a marriage is a business transaction if you really wanna get down to it (but ya I get the point BL was making about that - of course). I've done the straight up just pay for play, a decent bit over the years, some of them were really fun. Nice girls. Good at what they do. In the end a pile of money never makes the difference with the good ones. Some of the absolute best experiences have been the cheapest ones that you end up sleeping with till the next morning, or watching movies with, fucking, playing video games, cuddling, whatever.....even though it was supposed to be an hour long scheduling. Those are fun!!
If a girl doesn't like you she doesn't like you (same as you her). Period. None of those that I mention are reviewed. Not under any handle I ever had. Not anywhere. B/c I don't "review" those. Just like I don't review hot sex with a girl from the pool hall. For you younger dudes, if you do the hobby long enough and you will end up with some of those same experiences. If you are a decent person, nice guy, at least somewhat attractive (someone will like you), a good lover, fun to be around, funny, intelligent, etc... Ya. Eventually you will run into the real GFE's. I assure you.
Bottom line/cliff notes version?
90%+ of girls who say GFE will only be GFE with guys they are attracted to. Period. Will you be gfe with a girl that disgusts you? No. Some guys will walk out. I never could do that. It's too mean. But I'll be disappointed. And it will show. Just like theirs will show. We all have different tastes. Which is why *again* talk to them, fucking look at them, both ways, two way street, if you can't be GFE with them or vice versa then just admit it politely and move on in both directions. The lady can just politely say she has no time. As can you. Whatever. Hey if the guy doesn't wanna give his pics then fine for privacy issues but you are crazy if you are not asking. I don't get it. I wouldn't do it in a million years. But I would totally hook myself if I was the same version of myself as a female!
I use condoms in the hobby and also in my personally life. I will never bareback and it isnt because of fear of pregnancy. The real issue is not birth control.. women arent barebacking because of STDS not because they can get pregnant. There is a morning after pill and many other options that can take care of that. HIV and herpes etc can not.. I'm not looking to die from dick.
It's called IOP. The illusion of passion.. you never like if it's real or fake but they are damn good at it. I'm a great GFE with some clients it's real and with some it isnt. They never know and are still happy and satisfied. They arent mad either because they sent trying to date me. They understand this is pay for play.
A little advice.. we dont care what you look like nor do we need to see a picture. Chatting us up either doesnt do anything either. Sorry we want your money. I dont care if you are attractive most the time those guys have a huge ego and feel they are doing the ladies a favor here by booking. That we should some how feel blessed that he is paying to spend time with us. Nope looks dont matter in this type of business we know going into this that we arent getting "Richard Gere" in every appointment. Give me the normal sweet guy who is respectful any day. You still get the same type of GFE service no matter your looks. The only time this would change would be because of hygiene or attitude. Nothing else.
Ya, but the OP asked about a very particular question and was even so particular he posted in two different places. It was obviously important to him. That's what it was originally about. I was addressing him, younger guys, those who are not as experienced.
I disagree with that last statement. You might not do that. That's fine. But it's not really something you cannot just make a blanket statement about like that. In your case maybe. I'll give you that. Fair enough. Maybe even your friends and girls you know. I believe you. But I *know* it's not everyone. I have ~22+ years or so of experience since ~18 that says otherwise. I believe *you* though. Ya that's fine. Whatever. Hottest sex I've ever had in my life was with a provider. A paid provider. Paid. Not the other free couple I've mentioned dating and fuck buddies and shit like that. Yes I knew her. But she was the best. Ever. Period. Hands down. I've had two wives and SO's (including the fuck buddies/provider stuff) that were not like her.
Brittany maybe you are great in all your sessions. I have no idea. I find that hard to believe to be honest. Has nothing to do with you it's just that I don't think sex with various people is always gonna be good. Frankly most girls suck as much as girls say that guys suck. Even when they think they are doing a good job. I fully admit I'm very jaded b/c of my particular experiences and long history with this. But I still stand by the fact that I think very few providers are anywhere near as good as they say they are (regarding GFE especially). I would even say that about RL too (to a smaller degree sure but still). Just like lots of girls say about guys. Probably a lot of guys are bad. Some guys who think girls are great other guys think suck. Some girls who think guys are great other girls think suck. That's the whole point. I don't care if it's money or not.
That's very smart. I don't want to die from nasty pussy either. I don't disagree with you. Very smart. I do think it's a tad melodramatic. But ya totally. Good on you. Seriously. But a guy doing FIV is risky too (for you both). Kissing is risky. BBBJ is risky. Anything is risky. My point about that stuff was simply that it's not nearly *as* risky as people think. Sex in itself is risky. But ya don't do that. Don't advertise that. I never said that. Ick.
I never said someone should be doing bbfs with clients that just doing pay for play. I think that's gross. I think even posted something previously to that effect. It's nasty. But honestly lots of the bareback is nasty depending on the person (i.e. seeing a friggin pic, talking, at least find out if their a rude asshole, whatever....). I mean come on. That goes both ways. You don't even have to be getting paid to know that. Being paid practically makes it worse. Don't you want to know that you can be intimate with someone that doesn't gross you out? In whatever way. You do realize I'm not just talking about some fucking model. I never said that. Just seems nasty to me to not know any of that. Ick. I could never do that. I mean what if a guy has some mole on his face that you just stand, like it's just your thing, you just can't stand it, but he wants all this IOP kissing. I mean, isn't that fucking gross?? IF that's gross to you (not trying to say anything about moles guys -- just an example for sake of argument).
Hands down the best girls I've ever known, paid or not (I'm talking providers technically speaking, from a place like this, not "RL" if we are gonna use that jargon) are people that don't really "provide" a lot. They do it as a kind of side thing to make extra cash, b/c they really like sex, like they love it. But they won't just have sex with anyone. They almost always know the guys they are with. They mostly have just a small handful or so or slightly more (maybe) that they see here and there. And covered is fine. I didn't say you should do that. I didn't say that. But don't pretend it doesn't. Maybe you don't. In my cases it has, and yea the paid ones as well as the small bit that became the not paid ones. I was also safe about it. And so much other shit is way riskier. With the way you are describing the "business" of fucking, or at least what I'm picking up from you, yea I would say you are VERY smart to not advertise that or do it. I'm being 100% sincere about that.
Ya if you are good at IOP great. I've seen some girls who were good at that. Most are not good. Ok, maybe that's a little harsh or mean, not great though. Certainly not close to great. Some of them are borderline I want the fuck out of here. Probably as bad as you think guys are that have those egos. I'm sure those are true too. The egos. If a girl thinks the more experienced guys don't know though they are dreaming. Maybe, if you pull off a really good one. Otherwise no. Pretty easy to tell.
This part is the most important thing. I know what you want. That was probably not the best way to promote it though. Anyway, that's why I spent as much time to explain to guys, especially younger inexperienced guys who will undoubtedly read these at some point, b/c they will just throw money away. Ya I know you do it for business. I'm sure you are great if you have a good connection. I just doubt how many are really all that great. Maybe your business is fine. I don't know you so I can't say. The fact is the vast majority of girls who promote gfe suck badly. Quite badly. I mean some guys will happily, probably a shit ton, hand over $100 or $200 have you do the mechanics and act like a silly porn star (or not) and be totally happy. They blew their load. Yay. Good day. Business done. Meh. Whatever. The OP wasn't asking about that though.
This OP was asking about a very particular kind of GFE. I was talking to that guy and to other guys who want to learn. Not to ******s. No offense. I do think a lot "sex workers" could learn just as much as they think guys need to learn. Most sessions that are supposedly of a gfe nature suck. Most girls are bad at it. GFE is a stupid term that came about to describe mechanical activities. It rarely happens. Jesus it's hard to happen in this magical RL place everyone talks about (as if this is somehow now RL... I always find that funny). Like we are in a game or something. Sex is sex. Man if you don't see it any other way then I think that's kinda sad if someone has gotten to that point (sincerely). Personally that's my opinion. But, hey, your deal, your life, you do what you want. I got no issues with that.
The "hobby gfe" jargon is fine. I think you're on point with that as far as "pay for play". I don't like that term personally but hey whatever. This guy was asking something specific. And I'd like to help younger people, men, who may get taken, or are less experienced. To let them know what it can be like. B/c I've experienced it. Paid and otherwise. Not b/c I have some huge ego. Fuck no. I was saying anyone even decently attractive, nice, funny, whatever. I never said anything about being super attractive, some huge ego, blah blah. Apparently a lot of guys have that. You are not the only one to say that by far. I just meant like don't you wanna know you are gonna lay down with?? Especially especially if you think the person expects a great "GFE" performance?? I sure as fuck do. And I'm a guy. I mean come on.
I don't need the advice, but I do thank you. It might be helpful for some younger or more inexperienced guys and so it's a great PSA.
I've been fairly clear that I'm talking about all kinds of sex. Not "RL and what not". All sex. Sex is sex. Personally any other way one could see it is weird to me. I don't want to line your pocket. I know that's what you want. I want that from an employer too. And I do quite well. Usually before you get a job they don't just give up the dough for some odd reason. They seem to want this thing called an interview. Mostly its to find out if you fit in well, are you good with the team, socialize well, do you mesh with their culture, etc.... Very rarely (even at my level not gonna give out too many details but i'm a computer scientist) does it have anything to do about the "skills". Truly it's doesn't. Even at the highest levels. It's about social matching and culture fit. The connection. Why? B/c you can have all the skills in the world but if you don't have a connection no work will get done, communication will suck, business will fail, and the employer has no need to partake of your services (i.e. give you money). Follow where I'm going with this?
I've got nothing against you BL. I don't mean for any of this to sound like I'm attacking you. It's in text format so it easily possible it could come off as snarky or apathetic or disingenuous if read the wrong way. I'm sorry if that's what happened while you read it. I didn't mean for that to be the case.
Everything reads so serious, and then this statement- I about spit my drink out on my key board. Funny stuff!!
Y'all hear that? No one wants to die from nasty pussy!!
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I didn't take time to read all the replies, but I will say that the most GFE "relationship" I had with a provider, of whom I saw multiple times over about 5 years, was CrystalKitty. She always was consistent (with one exception) and the fact that we genuinely got along went a long way. At one point I saw her exclusively for about a year and a half. Then all of the sudden she NCNS'd on me after having me drive 1/2 hr in traffic. When I tried to make sure she was ok I got crickets. Okay, let it go. Then I saw her again and it was as if nothing happened. This was fine for about three visits then the NCNS again. This pattern repeated itself about two more times at which I got pissed and let her know about it. She then decided to it was okay to text me at home, knowing I was there because I specifically asked her not to respond being that I was almost home. (NOTE: This was before I got smart and quit using my real number for the hobby.) That was the straw that broke the camels back and I fired back a scolding hot text and didn't see her again for about six months. When I did decided to call her again, I was able to have a civil conversation and she not only apologized but offered a free session to make up for it. I also learned some important "personal issues" about her during that down time that contributed to the whole situation. Long story short, I continued to see her almost exclusively until she retired, which averaged 3-4 times a month. In fact, at one point she scared the hell outta me when she said, "I love you" then quickly began to backtrack. I still don't know if it was a Freudian Slip or on purpose, testing the waters, but I didn't need that. Regardless, we had a great relationship, business aside, to the point that I could see myself just hanging out with her totally unrelated to the business aspect. I miss her as I feel she was as close to a GFE that I have ever experienced in the hobby.
Last edited by britttany_love; 10-19-2018 at 02:36 AM.
Mathguy and BL, get a room and work it out.
Kinda seems on the precipice of a pissing contest......js.
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While off topic, I do miss the days of CrystalKitty. She was such a sweetheart. Cherry Chandler and Crystal were my very first hobby experiences.
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Get a room really? Because we are sharing opinions on a topic in coed and having a discussion. Sweetie you dont have to open them and read them if they are bothersome or you can contribute to the thread.
I think I did contribute to the thread. The op asked as specific question which seems to have been answered to great detail. Now it seems it has turned into the MathGuy and BL show...js
Funny thing is I am adding my opinion and just got told to don't read them or contribute.
So what you are saying is YOUR opinion is what matters and if you cant contribute or dissent in such away take your football and go home.
While you are an intelligent and well written woman, I am starting to notice a bit of a jaded tone in your interactions.
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