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    Notice I did not claim to be a real player myself!

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    I agree with the advice to invest for the long term and put a good portion of what you wish to invest into ETF's like those offered by Vanguard. If you're relatively young and will be working for awhile, I'd be all in stocks. As you get older, rebalance to hold bonds and/or cash.

    Remember to diversify - US Large Caps (Growth stocks and Value Stocks), US Mid/Small Caps, Developed Foreign markets (eg Europe), Emerging Markets (eg SE Asia, India, etc). Vanguard has funds in each of these. You mentioned Buffett - he's strategy has been value (good companies with lower P/E).

    I'd put another portion in REITs (either as an ETF or individual stocks). These have to pay out around 90% of their profit in dividends by law. With the demographics, I'd look at healthcare REITs

    Then a smaller portion in speculative stocks. Now, I'd look at travel related stocks -- airlines, hotels, booking sites, etc. (I'd avoid cruise lines, their likely slow to recover, if at all. I've been buying Delta over the past few weeks (also pays a dividend). I suspect it will recover nicely in the next several months to a year or so for a nice gain. Not planning to hold it long term - make some money and sell (as don't think airlines are good long term holds). Played United the same way after 9/11 and worked out well.

    If you decide to invest in individual companies, still try to diversify -- US Growth, US Value, etc. Cost average -- eg, if you want to invest $10K in COMPANY X, use 1/3 to take an initial position, 1/3 a bit later, then the final 1/3. Particularly in today's market with all the volatility. Don't try to time the market. Dividend payers a plus - make sure the yield isn't out of line with income so the dividend can be sustained. Companies that raise their dividend year over year (search Dividend Aristocrats).

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    Always remember in times like these nothing wrong with keeping plenty of cash. I try to keep 2 to 3 years of expenses in cash or near cash.

    Half my $ is in 4 stocks, AAPL,FB,MSFT and GOOGL. Why? Because besides the fact they have great businesses they also have great Balance Sheets with after subtracting the debt between $56 Bil to $105 Bil in cash. They can easily ride this out and buy back shares at lower prices. Happy investing.
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    Moody's just came out with an analytical report on how they expect states to fare as a result of coronavirus. That article can be found here:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coron...154119387.html

    For those who don't want to read but appreciate the lede:

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    Enjoy your weekend.

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    Because my last post wasn't depressing enough I thought I'd double down. I just read an article in The Economist which indicates that since mid-February global market value has been destroyed to the tune of $23 TRILLION. Insert your fave Mike Meyers meme here.

    That is NOT a guess...that is looking at each bourse on the planet on a given day to see market value and doing the same thing again on a later date!!!

    It is a bit hard to figure out a per person impact. After all, plenty of global poor do not play in the markets. On the other end, lots of institutional players do, some of it is your money but not all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rhimene View Post
    Because my last post wasn't depressing enough I thought I'd double down. I just read an article in The Economist which indicates that since mid-February global market value has been destroyed to the tune of $23 TRILLION. Insert your fave Mike Meyers meme here.

    That is NOT a guess...that is looking at each bourse on the planet on a given day to see market value and doing the same thing again on a later date!!!

    It is a bit hard to figure out a per person impact. After all, plenty of global poor do not play in the markets. On the other end, lots of institutional players do, some of it is your money but not all.
    I get the gist of the post, market = bad, but can you translate this into kindergarten for me, Ben?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chloevankatie View Post
    I get the gist of the post, market = bad, but can you translate this into kindergarten for me, Ben?
    It would be easier if we were in a digitally monogamous relationship (or had a go pro and 6' ladder) but I will give it a shot...

    IF you invest in the markets then you win with increases and lose with decreases. Most advanced countries have a bourse (market). So globally there is a shit ton of money invested. From folk like Fidelity to the lost souls of the recently closed thread.

    When god flushes his toilet everything spins down. We look at NASDAQ etc but that is happening around the world.

    KEY point...NOBODY loses $ unless they sell in a panic. If you hold onto you positions you have a paper loss, but still have chance for shares to rebound.

    Main point is $23 TRILLION is a fuckload of paper losses, and society needs to see production return and lift stocks. That will take a real recovery, but because this is a fake (as in temporary and not systemic issue) crisis it is quite possible economy recovers in 2020. We have NEVER had a pandemic-incurred recession. This will be the first, but it will also be short-lived.

    Make sense?

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