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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (discreetgent @ Mar 29 2009, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    If you go through the relevant section in the bible, a man&#39;s marital status is irrelevant. Adultery is only if the woman is married.

    (Leviticus 20:10, Deuteronomy 22:22)[/b]
    Well without doing all that how about I just reword.

    "Or screw a married WOman or sacrifice your life?"

    Sounds kinda sexist to me...Does that include women in long term relationships that are considered married in a legal sense in that were they to break up and have to go to court and divide assets it would be done as if they had been married?

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WTF @ Mar 29 2009, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Well without doing all that how about I just reword.


    Sounds kinda sexist to me...[/b]
    An ancient world religion... sexist? Say it ain&#39;t so!


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    I agree with Lauren.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Audra Baron @ Mar 29 2009, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I agree with Lauren.[/b]
    I agree with Lauren but then I would. I&#39;m a Humanist.

    How do you feel about death before having sex with a &#39;Married &#39; woman? lol

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (WTF @ Mar 29 2009, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Well without doing all that how about I just reword.

    "Or screw a married WOman or sacrifice your life?"

    Sounds kinda sexist to me...Does that include women in long term relationships that are considered married in a legal sense in that were they to break up and have to go to court and divide assets it would be done as if they had been married?[/b]
    No, legally married, no such concept as common law marriage - I mean that would - HORRORS - have meant sex outside of a sanctioned relationship and we simply can&#39;t have that going on

    Heh, want to talk about sexist? When a couple divorced the wife only received a pre-determined portion as detailed in the Ketubah (among other things think of it as a pre-nup). Technically speaking the wife had no assets, all belonged to her husband. If the woman was widowed she would get the pre-determined sum from the estate and there was also an obligation for her sons to support her. The only time a woman could inherit was if there were only daughters.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (discreetgent @ Mar 30 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    No, legally married, no such concept as common law marriage - I mean that would - HORRORS - have meant sex outside of a sanctioned relationship and we simply can&#39;t have that going on

    Heh, want to talk about sexist? When a couple divorced the wife only received a pre-determined portion as detailed in the Ketubah (among other things think of it as a pre-nup). Technically speaking the wife had no assets, all belonged to her husband. If the woman was widowed she would get the pre-determined sum from the estate and there was also an obligation for her sons to support her. The only time a woman could inherit was if there were only daughters.[/b]

    Well in that case I guess it&#39;s time to start my Orthodox conversion..... lol

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    Don&#39;t you think that religion is also heavily skewed by the culture within which you live?
    I think in general, certain parts of Europe are much more liberal about sex and living "in sin" than the US regardless of their religion.
    I&#39;m not saying it&#39;s right...I&#39;m just asking the question about culture.
    My mum (who would be considered very British and a WASP) would be mortified if any of us (3 gals) married without first living together or god forbid, married without having sex with future hubby first. Seriously she would. She&#39;s pretty involved with her church but not blinded by religion. She takes from it what she can relate to and doesnt stress about the rest. I think she would quickly point of the ignorance and naive approach of such an action (marriage without sex and co-habiting).
    I don&#39;t think she is unusual in her way of thinking either.
    I have catholic friends whose parents are well aware that they are having sex outside of marriage, use contraception and a couple whose mothers know they have had a termination and support them. I think they look at lifestyle first and make religion accomodate that....in other words, religion not their primary driver and they don&#39;t allow it to make them feel guilty about their life. By stark contrast, that sort of behavior would not be going on a few short miles away amongst catholics in Ireland.....



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    It appears to me that the western culture allocates a lot more belief that the success of marriage relies on compatibility...where the eastern culture still seems to rely more on duty. I have an India guy who works for me who has an arranged marriage that he is quite happy in...a pretty much unheard of thing in the western culture.

    I&#39;m not sure where all that fits in the religious aspect...but my thought would be that duty springs more from religious beliefs and compatability more from the secular world.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camille @ Mar 30 2009, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Don&#39;t you think that religion is also heavily skewed by the culture within which you live?
    I think in general, certain parts of Europe are much more liberal about sex and living "in sin" than the US regardless of their religion.
    I&#39;m not saying it&#39;s right...I&#39;m just asking the question about culture.
    My mum (who would be considered very British and a WASP) would be mortified if any of us (3 gals) married without first living together or god forbid, married without having sex with future hubby first. Seriously she would. She&#39;s pretty involved with her church but not blinded by religion. She takes from it what she can relate to and doesnt stress about the rest. I think she would quickly point of the ignorance and naive approach of such an action (marriage without sex and co-habiting).
    I don&#39;t think she is unusual in her way of thinking either.
    I have catholic friends whose parents are well aware that they are having sex outside of marriage, use contraception and a couple whose mothers know they have had a termination and support them. I think they look at lifestyle first and make religion accomodate that....in other words, religion not their primary driver and they don&#39;t allow it to make them feel guilty about their life. By stark contrast, that sort of behavior would not be going on a few short miles away amongst catholics in Ireland.....[/b]
    I think mothers (and fathers) love their children more than their religion and will support them even if they don&#39;t agree with the choices they make.


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rudyard K @ Mar 30 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    It appears to me that the western culture allocates a lot more belief that the success of marriage relies on compatibility...where the eastern culture still seems to rely more on duty. I have an India guy who works for me who has an arranged marriage that he is quite happy in...a pretty much unheard of thing in the western culture.

    I&#39;m not sure where all that fits in the religious aspect...but my thought would be that duty springs more from religious beliefs and compatability more from the secular world.[/b]
    I&#39;ve never really understood arranged marriage and agree there seems to be a sense of duty (e.g. stay married, don&#39;t leave). I will say the few couples the are products of arranged marriage I know seem to have much less intimacy (physical & emotional) than other couples.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (discreetgent @ Mar 28 2009, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Quick explanation for "Yeihareig ve&#39;al ya&#39;avor" which I will guess most folks reading this thread are unfamiliar with. The literal meaning of the phrase is to give up ones life and not break a prohibition. In Judaism an overriding concept is that a life that is at risk trumps everything. That means, one can violate various prohibitions such as sabbath, even yom kippur if it is to save a life. However, there are three prohibitions - adultery, idol worship, murder - which are the only ones that one should give up their life -- that is if someone says worship the idol or I will kill you, you sacrifice your life; or kill this person or I will kill you sacrifice your life.[/b]

    Just heard this same explanation watching "the Lucky Slevin" Ben Kingsley got the line.

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    Just like Judaism, most of the worlds major religions actually have the same principles in banning murder and adultry. To me, as long as I live a good life on Earth with loving intentions and acts, I feel like if ever a judgement day come I&#39;ll have a really good alibi for me to slide through the doors of eternal happiness.
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