Babylon,Alligator and List Crawler

Boy have things changed. I ask my clients where they found me the answer is always 2 or 3 different sites.

So I was on there since 2014ish. Back in the day, men generally didn't know much about the internet, or going to different sites. I found some real gems on there. They see you (you provide good service and safety), and they repeat loyally. They don't ask for a ton of stuff.

Now those days are gone. I believe more guys are going to 3 sites and checking them all out. So I deleted my List Crawler. Not so sure the diamond in the rough is there anymore. I get text with the most clueless people, I can tell by the answer where they come from.

So now, no offense to OH2 or any other sites, I had 3 people ask 8 questions without screening. All to plan for least time and be cheap. I just provide what I provide, but is it just me or oh2 guys more demanding? I guess its the threat or promise of a review.

Is it just me, or back in the day those guys off List Crawler (after sifting through) were easier going and more kind? They were thankful. After dealing with so much drama they find a kind person and stayed loyal. Maybe those same guys are now on other sites and begin the text with outfit request and refuse to screen and act entitled.

Rant over. Have a happy hump day. I hope someone is getting humped lol

And honestly by time people arrive, get me naked, no lingerie, it was all for nothing lol.

when i was below sea level, i noticed a trend from oh2 guys, they never read up on anything about me before making contact and when they did make contact all they texted or pmd was .hey.
imo if any guys human dashboard is that low on signal and can only give me a .hey. they deserve to be ignored w no response. js ive had better introductions from listcrawler.

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when i was below sea level, i noticed a trend from oh2 guys, they never read up on anything about me before making contact and when they did make contact all they texted or pmd was .hey.
imo if any guys human dashboard is that low on signal and can only give me a .hey. they deserve to be ignored w no response. js ive had better introductions from listcrawler.

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Listcrawler guys use to be more respectful and appreciative back in the day. Those gentlemen are on all sites and wanting more and more. Like "what outfits, what color, and on and on" then want the shortest session too and to end it off does GFE include bbfs I'm not kidding when I say 5 people have annoyed me today and making them happy was a waste of my time. So I have a theory that these old list crawler guys are now on all sites and wanting the world for less.

So I'm pretty brain dead today haha. It's a bad day, not a bad life kinda day. I have no brain cells left for good clients. But my theory is our hidden gems on list crawler are now on all sites, price hunting and full of the most ridiculous questions. Those great appreciative LC clients got to wanting it all. It was just short of asking me for a free video call standing on my head spinning while holding up 3 fingers.

I'm sitting on it today :bouncing:

The hobbyverse as a whole has expanded even into and especially into the realm of Onlyfans and such. Some hobbyists view that and might get ideas from that, or from watching porn on a myriad of porn sites. Thus some of the ideas of particular outfits or lingerie or positions to do the deed in.

And yes unfortunately some do feel "entitled" as if they're the only one out there with money. Well if you have to, then block said asshat or asshats. Oh and one word pms do deserve to be automatically laughed at and ignored. If a hobbyist can't give you an introduction as to who he is with recent references then, BYE FELICIA. Move him out of the way for the real and ready to go hobbyists.

There are those of us who are still very decent and treat our ladies very well. We know what types of situations and well, struggles they go through daily. So once we've met and had previous sessions it makes things that much easier for both sides to set up a date and time. Maybe even on that same day, who knows. But there are still decent gents out there even on multiple sites. Asshats and fuckwaffles aplenty. Once you get your gents the only thing I can suggest is hold onto those ones that treat you best.

AN, may I suggest you tell them to get to the pint or move along. Gentlemen, this is a P4P site, not I want a Friend.com. The same goes for the picture collectors. You want to collect pictures, go to OF or the internet and have at it. You want to make an appointment...get to the point and do it.

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Originally Posted by DocHoliday

AN, may I suggest you tell them to get to the pint or move along. Gentlemen, this is a P4P site, not I want a Friend.com. The same goes for the picture collectors. You want to collect pictures, go to OF or the internet and have at it. You want to make an appointment...get to the point and do it.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by DocHoliday

AN, may I suggest you tell them to get to the pint or move along. Gentlemen, this is a P4P site, not I want a Friend.com. The same goes for the picture collectors. You want to collect pictures, go to OF or the internet and have at it. You want to make an appointment...get to the point and do it.

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^^^ THAT!

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Originally Posted by Anna Nikkole

Boy have things changed. I ask my clients where they found me the answer is always 2 or 3 different sites.

So I was on there since 2014ish. Back in the day, men generally didn't know much about the internet, or going to different sites. I found some real gems on there. They see you (you provide good service and safety), and they repeat loyally. They don't ask for a ton of stuff.

Now those days are gone. I believe more guys are going to 3 sites and checking them all out. So I deleted my List Crawler. Not so sure the diamond in the rough is there anymore. I get text with the most clueless people, I can tell by the answer where they come from.

So now, no offense to OH2 or any other sites, I had 3 people ask 8 questions without screening. All to plan for least time and be cheap. I just provide what I provide, but is it just me or oh2 guys more demanding? I guess its the threat or promise of a review.

Is it just me, or back in the day those guys off List Crawler (after sifting through) were easier going and more kind? They were thankful. After dealing with so much drama they find a kind person and stayed loyal. Maybe those same guys are now on other sites and begin the text with outfit request and refuse to screen and act entitled.

Rant over. Have a happy hump day. I hope someone is getting humped lol

And honestly by time people arrive, get me naked, no lingerie, it was all for nothing lol.

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Oh2 has certainly changed in so many ways since covid. Definitely not the same respectful crowd anymore. Maybe because it became more well-known, as the internet in general has changed drastically and how people act in general since covid.

the part that i don't understand (and i don't doubt the ladies... i just don't understand) is that it is our time (too) and our money ... until it isn't. i appreciate that a provider is giving of herself and how well she does that has meaning to me. perhaps these contacts set an expectation level for the ladies? they know what is waiting on the other side of the door?

i tend to book 2 hours so it's important to me that the provider thinks we will connect well and enjoy ourselves. i describe what i enjoy and ask for their opinion ... but before i do that, i read what they say about themselves (web sites, ads, about me stuff) and reviews ... with an understanding that reviews need to be read with a sense of who wrote it and what it should mean to the reader. this tends to add to my pleasure in looking forward to our time together. i appreciate ads that say READ THE ENTIRE TEXT.

so, guys who do a poor job of research are setting themselves up for a less than stellar experience ... and that is what i don't understand

In my opinion it's the lesser lower session guys who want the most. Not 2 hours haha. I'd definitely understand and the answer would be the same. I actually made a clipboard yesterday so it can be sent immediately, and kind and explanation of what I pretty much have in ads and information I've already sent.

Those lower sites had some true gems, they asked nothing, got the best treatment, and rinse and repeat. Now like I've mentioned they are scanning those sites along with OH2 and tryst.

They want a face picture, outfit request, free facetime.

I made a clipboard to send to those. I get asked for a face picture 500-1000x a year. Usually before the guy even screens.

It use to be that eccie and oh2 guys demanded more or would write a crappy review. I think our appreciative gems are into that mindset now.

Ill answer easily. I don't send face picture, I have what i have as a sex worker, I'll greet you in clothes more times than not.

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Originally Posted by SexySammy

Oh2 has certainly changed in so many ways since covid. Definitely not the same respectful crowd anymore. Maybe because it became more well-known, as the internet in general has changed drastically and how people act in general since covid.

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It might have to do with covid. I remember guys finding a gem of a woman off oh2 and refuse to tell her about oh2. It was the same for me finding gems and not bringing them to oh2.

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Originally Posted by Anna Nikkole

In my opinion it's the lesser lower session guys who want the most. Not 2 hours haha. I'd definitely understand and the answer would be the same. I actually made a clipboard yesterday so it can be sent immediately, and kind and explanation of what I pretty much have in ads and information I've already sent.

Those lower sites had some true gems, they asked nothing, got the best treatment, and rinse and repeat. Now like I've mentioned they are scanning those sites along with OH2 and tryst.

They want a face picture, outfit request, free facetime.

I made a clipboard to send to those. I get asked for a face picture 500-1000x a year. Usually before the guy even screens.

It use to be that eccie and oh2 guys demanded more or would write a crappy review. I think our appreciative gems are into that mindset now.

Ill answer easily. I don't send face picture, I have what i have as a sex worker, I'll greet you in clothes more times than not.

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It might have to do with covid. I remember guys finding a gem of a woman off oh2 and refuse to tell her about oh2. It was the same for me finding gems and not bringing them to oh2.

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Heck I only came this way because it was the only site similar to eccie but they no longer allowed ads and I hadn't even realized they had got busted when BP did.

It's most definitely the cheapskates that ask the most. "Can I get a teaser vid before our QV session", I think not sir. Smh. The crowd is certainly different on p411 so far. Not one person has asked for a cheaper rate/negotiated, asked for additional pics or vids, nada. Just simple time of session, length of session and maybe one or 2 clarifications of menu items. No texting me for hours or days leading up to said appointment. None of that. While I don't mind that from my regulars occasionally, they know and respect that my RW time is MY time. They are not my boyfriends, do I consider some of them friends, most definitely. But when someone starts to try sending me "good morning beautiful" messages everyday and not booking, does it then become an issue and they get cut off. We are here for fun but there's always boundaries. The folks who get it, GET IT.

I still post on megapersonals (which I believe posts to Listcrawler, escort Babylon etc I think they are all tied together some how) due to the fact that it is free to post there vs other sites where it's $50-$200 to post your ad.
I've gotten a few amazing clients off there but its very few and far between - I've realized its A LOT of time wasters, pic/address collectors/broke guys wanting free or cheap play.
Its super frustrating sometimes but like I said there has been a few amazing clients I've gained from those sites... Once I know they saw my ad on one of the sites above I always reccommend they try tryst or oh2 or one of the more serious sites because I've looked at some of the other ads on there and they seem fake as f*ck

I don’t remember eccie having been busted. But I think they got cold feet after the feds seized BP. So they shut down for a couple of weeks and came back as a neutered version of their former selves with a new look and new rules. I miss their old galleries, but nothing else.

The thing to remember about listcrawler/escortbabylon is that it's a scraper site for the most part. If you don't post yourself on there it will pull your ad from sites such as sumosearch and megapersonals. The other sites have changed to what they currently are today.

As far as the people that use them, for the most part some change others become jaded and others try to stay living in the "glory days". Anyway you look at it, there's always going to be those good people and bad people. That has never changed and never will. Just seems the numbers have increased from what I hear of the more typical asshat types as apposed to the decent ones.

As I suggested before when you find those good ones ladies do what you will with them. But you might want to think about also holding onto them. Other less than desirables pop up daily and are a dime a dozen. I bet you a dollar to a hole in a doughnut it won't be easy as you might want it to be to find replacements for the decent ones. Whether on this site or one of the other platforms you had connected with them on.

I think 5 years ago people stopped at LC, man I found some real gems. Got to admit not getting dumb text past few days (for the most part) has veen refreshing. I'm sure ill go to a city where I'll need it again, no shame in my game. But When I ask now they say LC, Tryst etc etc. Use to they ask "what other ones are there"? Guess what my answer was lol.

The good ol days.

Since I want to be fairly short and to the point without being rude, would a recent text of mine "I saw your post on OH2. I'm interested" be out of line? I have no idea when she is available and her post did not list rates, so I'm trying to be brief.

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Originally Posted by Wanderer23

Since I want to be fairly short and to the point without being rude, would a recent text of mine "I saw your post on OH2. I'm interested" be out of line? I have no idea when she is available and her post did not list rates, so I'm trying to be brief.

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I see nothing wrong with that and completely get it, but apparently u can get ur head taken off for that now.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeDRII

The thing to remember about listcrawler/escortbabylon is that it's a scraper site for the most part. If you don't post yourself on there it will pull your ad from sites such as sumosearch and megapersonals. The other sites have changed to what they currently are today.

As far as the people that use them, for the most part some change others become jaded and others try to stay living in the "glory days". Anyway you look at it, there's always going to be those good people and bad people. That has never changed and never will. Just seems the numbers have increased from what I hear of the more typical asshat types as apposed to the decent ones.

As I suggested before when you find those good ones ladies do what you will with them. But you might want to think about also holding onto them. Other less than desirables pop up daily and are a dime a dozen. I bet you a dollar to a hole in a doughnut it won't be easy as you might want it to be to find replacements for the decent ones. Whether on this site or one of the other platforms you had connected with them on.

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I've had my ad pulled to so many fishy sites without my permission. Even List Crawler has sections they post on their own like the over 40, I'm fine with that. But the one for cheap cheap, ummm no. And who was I to complain to?

I posted there today, just 1 ad.