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That hasn't been peer-reviewed so it doesn't really count, does it?
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You mean if mutation reaches levels like the annual flu or cell phone usage-wrecks, which both rank higher than COVID deaths in Houston?Quote:
Originally Posted by chloevankatie
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WTF? This was hardly a controversial thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by The1Slayer
I didn't realize elipses was/were a fetish...MathGuy...why haven't you addressed this yet?!...
Lol.......... If you notice Ben......... I use elipses alllllll the time................... <---See
Slayer, we all know you have an elipsis fetish...Quote:
Originally Posted by The1Slayer
So unfortunately I can't see the original links after they were edited. Only the one where Ben quotes Chloe above. Therefore, I'm not entirely sure to what article or research study you were referring.Quote:
Originally Posted by chloevankatieWhat is going to suck is if it mutates and the vaccine they are currently working on ends up ineffective. :(
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Originally Posted by Ben Rhimene
I wouldn't worry too much about mutation nullifying vaccines. It would need to be a significant mutation which is very rare. It's even more rare for something like the SARS-COV-2 virus as it has an overall mutation rate that is roughly 1/4 the speed and frequency of seasonal influenza.
Additionally, I don't put much hope into a vaccine. It will take time to create one & properly test in human trials.
We will reach herd immunity levels way before then. The only exception would be a vaccine or antiviral that was literally going to be available in the next 2-3mos at the most (unrealistic honestly; to do it safely).
Herd immunity is likely a lot closer than people realize too. Even once it reaches 40% infection/immunity it's going to drastically reduce case load/infection rates. It won't stop it no, but even 65-80% won't *stop* it. Why? Because there are still 20-35% who are susceptible. It just means it's much less likely for the virus to find someone where it can thrive, multiply, and pass on.
There is simply no way we can wait for a vaccine for life to go back to normal. No possible way. AND WE DO NOT NEED TO PEOPLE. A vaccine is just a dose of a dead or weakened virus tricking your body into doing what it needs to do anyway. It's not some "magic cure". Nope.
What should we do given the new study data coming out of MedRx and various preprint servers? Well, the data that we are getting now shows the virus in most people is in line with seasonal flu to a [+/- (2-4x)] factor. That's roughly .025%, or 1/5 as deadly as seasonal flu, up to .5%, or ~4x as deadly as seasonal flu.
Given that info and once it's all completely peer reviewed and conclusive we should do a "targeted social distancing program":
1. Everyone over 65, and anyone over 55 with at least 1 comorbidity of high risk stays home and/or has a special shopping hours program.
2. All schools open back up and continue normal functions.
3. Anyone in the age groups above in #1 who are unable to work (i.e those over 65 who still worked) get a stimulus to help them get near 100% of their normal pay. ONLY THOSE AGE GROUPS GET THIS BENEFIT.
4. Everyone else goes back to life as usual. Herd immunity will set in place soon enough with some communities showing already as high 30% infection rate and/or immunity.
5. Everything is open. Everyone goes back to work (or work from home if those are new practices certain companies are now accustomed to doing). No restrictions. Everything open.
closed by req of OP.